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By: Parallax857

Parallax857 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:04:56 +0000

Arizona under Lute was a guard-oriented team, which made them vulnerable to cold shooting. In a one-and-done format, it’s harder for guard-oriented teams because you cannot afford a single bad game.

None of which is to say Olson didn’t stress rebounding and defense. He did in his prime as much as one could with a guard-oriented team.

My sense is Miller will build his teams differently, with more inside muscle and a bit less emphasis on pure athleticism. Perhaps that’s not quite a fair assessment in that Lute was master at taking whatever talent he had and using it to the team’s advantage. He could coach big men just fine, but for whatever reason we got a rep as Point Guard U and so it became easiest to recruit guards.

At any rate, I would expect Miller’s teams to play slower than Olson’s, to focus more on set plays but take open shots when they come, to rebound well and to play more man-on-man D. While Olson’s best teams were a threat to score triple digits on a given night, Miller’s will score less points in a more consistent manner. While Olson recruited the best talent that wanted to play at Arizona and then molded his approach to fit the talent, Miller will recruit players that suit his system.

By: chicago wildcat

chicago wildcat — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:40:56 +0000

Think how good Standford was during that stretch in the late 90’s early 00’s with Mike. They were #1 a lot, and always lost early in the tournament.

By: chicago wildcat

chicago wildcat — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:37:46 +0000

I also reject that we were soft in the tournament. Were we soft in the duke game in 2001? Were we soft in the same tournament against the Bill Self led Illini? They had two starting line-ups that year, and were sure to use every foul they had. But in the end, we were too talented and too tough ourselves. What about gonzaga in 2003? I don’t recall ever losing a game in the tournament because we got pushed around. Some teams just played great defense which coupled with cold shooting on our part. Look at who we’ve lost to over the years (not counting the last few, although we did lose to the overall #1 seed last year, and by enough to lose many times over):
-Oklahoma with Stacy King who lost to kansas in 88′
-A heartbreaker to UNLV in 89′
-A Seton Hall team that pushed the runnin’ rebels to the brink in 91′
-The N.C. Arkansas with corliss williamson in 94′
-A really good Kansas team in 96′
-We lost to no one 97′, (suck it, kentucky)
-Utah went to the title game with andre miller in 98′
-Wisconson went to the final four in 00′ (god, that was brutal!)
-Duke won the NC in 01′ (still hate j. will and it killed me to see the bulls draft him, though i do feel bad for him)
-Oklahoma who went the final four in 02′ (man, they kind of have our # in the tourney)
-Kansas who went the title game in 03′ (that one really killed me because i raelly thought we were gonna run table that year)
-Ourselves…i mean Illinois who went to the title game in 05′ (don’t get me started)
-A really good Villanova Team in 06′

Now, there were some painful losses to teams we had no business losing to, but as you can see, we met up against some really good competition.

By: chicago wildcat

chicago wildcat — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:00:26 +0000

AzTransplant,

chicago is a lot further away from champaign than 30 miles.

By: davidpk19

davidpk19 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:41:59 +0000

It is not that difficult for Duke or any other team to be consistently good in the tournament when they consistently recruit only McDonald All American players. If one thinks about the fact that we were just starting to gain traction with high profile recruits at the end of Lute’s rein, then we may have had much better results for the long haul. Unfortunately Lute got old and I am hoping that Lute’s work will give Sean Miller a foot in the door and name-recognition with the Arizona brand. He can elevate the program to degrees that we had never reached and it would all be because of Lute as he laid the foundation.

By: FriendofDamon

FriendofDamon — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:04:42 +0000

the_dude said:
no offense or anything, i just wanted to play the other side of coin here.
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Of course no offense, and I actually don’t have a strong opinion about the whole thing. I see points to both sides of the coin, that was why I thought it was an interesting point of debate. I think WallyOPD sums up the best argument for which way I slightly lean, just because even an LA venue for us (which is usually thought of as great for us) is significantly further than any number of places that Duke/NC get to go to.